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shades2 05-27-2008 11:05 AM

GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
I'm fairly fastidious about cleaning my piece, a Glock 34 9x19mm, I'm wondering if anyone has any cleaning tips though and advice.

There is quite a buildup of black stuff, which if I were to hazard a guess is powder residue in the inner workings of the pistol, magwell etc. Is it worth cleaning this out? I tend to clean the barrel, slide and the rail sections that support the slide and the areas noted to get drops of oil in the manual.

I usually use a brass brush to clean the chamber and run it through the barrel a couple of times, polish the feed ramp, then send through some cloth pieces with quite a bit of cleaner on them, followed by dry patches. I basically try to clean it till there is no visible residue left, but I don't think I'm removing all the fouling in the rifling (most but not all).

I give the recoil spring a once over, put oil on the sear area where indicated, the rails, and a light coat on the small areas of the barrel lug and barrel area that contact the slide where wear is evident.

I have never done a full detail strip on the GLOCK to clean it, the pistol functions ok in this state and the powder residue inside doesn't seem to bother it.

Anyone else have better cleaning methods/practices?

I'm also having a lot of trouble achieving the consistency in shooting that I want, I try to go to the range once a week and do 50-100 rounds, but can't always manage that. I have a recipe I follow to get accuracy, but it doesn't always seem to work for me which I find puzzling, and I think it may be related to grip, as I have been finding myself pulling shots down or to the right..

I generally do the following sort of steps:

1. Isoceles stance, left (non-dominant) foot just slightly forward. Knees pretty much locked.
2. Left eye squinted.
3. Weaver type grip. Not ridiculously tight.
4. Shoot when breathing out, when lungs almost empty.
5. Head up looking down sights.
6. Using tip of finger and GLOCK trigger reset.
7. Arms out, not at full extension though.
8. Right wrist locked.
9. Focus on target, switch to focus on front sight, attempt to maintain sight and squeeze trigger.

There are a lot of steps I know. I have managed to achieve some pretty impressive accuracy at 11 yards with the GLOCK so I know the pistol is capable, it's a tack driver.

shades2 05-27-2008 11:26 AM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mumwaldee (Post 1120247)
This is a very good vid on how to detail strip any Glock.

YouTube - How To Detail Strip A Glock Pistol ( Glock disassembly)

After you've done it a few times it is a snap.

Thanks man. Once I get my full license, and the gun home I will attempt a full detail strip / clean. (We have strange gun laws here...)

SilverCity 05-27-2008 11:33 AM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Some of the things I like to do:

Shooting at clays or a steel gong at longer distances...~50 to 100 yards out against a dirt backstop. This should give you instant feedback and help you hone trigger skills.

Practice double-taps at closer range.

I am lazy and usually only detail strip every 500 rounds or so...

shades2 05-27-2008 11:50 AM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverCity (Post 1120271)
Some of the things I like to do:

Shooting at clays or a steel gong at longer distances...~50 to 100 yards out against a dirt backstop. This should give you instant feedback and help you hone trigger skills.

Practice double-taps at closer range.

I am lazy and usually only detail strip every 500 rounds or so...


Interesting. I mainly shoot paper at 11 yards, and once you get fixated on a distance like that, it seems to be actually harder to hit things closer or further away, I should probably mix it up a bit more.

This pistol has done 2500-3000 rounds now, and has never been detail stripped. It never jams, and if it ever fails to go into battery, it's due to a dirty feed ramp. I will get a new recoil spring one of these
days, possibly an aftermarket one.

JJ_ 05-27-2008 12:41 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Went and shot w/ my Bro a few weeks back..

First thing when we got to his range was I stepped up to the 50 yard line w/ G30 .. just for fun really since its a 3" barrell:D

I was burning up some old carry ammo- Hydrashocks,- Was aiming about neck high to anticipate the drop- shots were hitting about knee level.

switched to target ammo and the drop was even lower.

We then tried it w/ a G22- Target ammo - aimed center mass - hit center mass...

Fullpower 05-27-2008 12:50 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
JJ..... ya may want to adjust the sights on that g30
3 and a half feet low at 50 yards is not right.
both my G36 and colt officers shoot point of aim at 50 yards, factory stock sights.

JJ_ 05-27-2008 12:56 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1120402)
JJ..... ya may want to adjust the sights on that g30
3 and a half feet low at 50 yards is not right.
both my G36 and colt officers shoot point of aim at 50 yards, factory stock sights.

well -- I aint afriad to admit...

maybe it was just ME!

lol

shades2 05-27-2008 01:08 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fullpower (Post 1120402)
JJ..... ya may want to adjust the sights on that g30
3 and a half feet low at 50 yards is not right.
both my G36 and colt officers shoot point of aim at 50 yards, factory stock sights.

I agree with that, something is pretty wrong there.

Here is a figure I found for bullet drop for a 9mm at 100 yards:-

9mm 125 gr FMJ at 1150 FPS drop at 100 yds = 14.8" or 1.23333 feet.

At that distance, your sighting would be only a tiny fraction higher to compensate.

TomD 05-27-2008 01:29 PM

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I found and kept this lubrication chart for Glocks. It is a MS Word (.doc) file. It will open with notepad if you don't have Word.

buff01 05-27-2008 01:46 PM

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Thanks Tom,

For simplicity I converted that .doc to a .pdf for anyone who uses acrobat

hypervel 05-27-2008 05:51 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Paper plate at 15 yards to ingrain discipline. Paper plate at a coupla paces to get fast and dirty.
Brake cleaner.
Boresnake-hold the shoelace part under your foot and pull taught. Hoppe's 9, and the barrel already on the snake, jerk it back and forth over the brush portion until either you or the barrel are satisfied. VERY efficient.
Then I use an airbrush with Breakfree CLP to hose it down-again, VERY efficient both in time and product consumed.
Annual ultrasonic cleaning.

Caligula 05-27-2008 06:01 PM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
I bought a Glock just so I wouldn't have to clean my gun so much. :wink:

shades2 05-28-2008 08:17 AM

Re: GlOCK Cleaning / Shooting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligula (Post 1120794)
I bought a Glock just so I wouldn't have to clean my gun so much. :wink:

Heh. Oh so true...

You can really be nasty to Glocks and get away with it...


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